Comments on: ID Prediction #3 http://www.asa3online.org/Book/2010/03/09/id-prediction-3/ A members' forum for discussion of selected books Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:09:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Randy Isaac http://www.asa3online.org/Book/2010/03/09/id-prediction-3/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Randy Isaac Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:08:10 +0000 http://www.asa3online.org/Book/?p=96#comment-160 <p>Isn't that essentially the lower case i, lower case d id that Owen Gingerich talks about rather than ID? Essentially, it's deducing the ultimate cause of a designer rather than a proximal cause being the designer. It's not a scientific conclusion, per se. Randy</p> Isn’t that essentially the lower case i, lower case d id that Owen Gingerich talks about rather than ID? Essentially, it’s deducing the ultimate cause of a designer rather than a proximal cause being the designer. It’s not a scientific conclusion, per se.
Randy

]]> By: Jon Tandy http://www.asa3online.org/Book/2010/03/09/id-prediction-3/comment-page-1/#comment-159 Jon Tandy Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:15:26 +0000 http://www.asa3online.org/Book/?p=96#comment-159 Randy, You mention two possible outcomes of further research on the RNA world scenario. 1. RNA world proves not up to the task of creating protein and DNA molecules 2. RNA research may prove to have merit, so ID researchers might "give up the faith".  (I'll generalize this as not necessarily giving up religious faith, but the ID proposition of intelligent design. But if such research did prove to have merit, I think there is more likely a third possibility.  If RNA proves to be self-catalytic, so as to be able to create more and more complex structures and complex information such as DNA, doesn't that appear to be a very intelligently designed system?  So, 3. The existence of an RNA self-catalytic process is evidence that there must have been an intelligent designer involved in the creation of RNA. Randy,

You mention two possible outcomes of further research on the RNA world scenario.
1. RNA world proves not up to the task of creating protein and DNA molecules
2. RNA research may prove to have merit, so ID researchers might “give up the faith”.  (I’ll generalize this as not necessarily giving up religious faith, but the ID proposition of intelligent design.

But if such research did prove to have merit, I think there is more likely a third possibility.  If RNA proves to be self-catalytic, so as to be able to create more and more complex structures and complex information such as DNA, doesn’t that appear to be a very intelligently designed system?  So,

3. The existence of an RNA self-catalytic process is evidence that there must have been an intelligent designer involved in the creation of RNA.

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